Speak Out: He Infected People With HIV—Who’s To Blame?
It’s a case that’s understandably generated a lot of discussion. Twenty-five-year-old Antonio Reyes-Minana has just been sentenced to seven years in jail for knowingly infecting two former boyfriends with HIV. Reyes-Minana infected the men back in 2008 and 2012 after having unprotected sex with them.
James Allen of the United Kingdom’s Crown Prosecution Service said that Reyes-Minana “withheld his HIV status from one partner and lied to the other.” Reyes-Minana even tried to shift the blame away from him by alleging that it was a different person altogether that infected his two victims.
While the UK’s justice system has found Reyes-Minana guilty, the internet seems to be divided on the whole situation. There are those who think that Reyes-Minana should be in jail for life, while there are those that maintain that he isn’t the only one to blame.
One commenter writes “As much as I’m sure I’ll be accused of victim blaming, the two men could have and should have taken responsibility for their own health and safety. They were grown arse men, they could have insisted on safe sex until they’d been tested together, they could have refused, they took on faith something they have absolutely no way of being certain of.”
Yet another writes that one should always assume that the person you’re having sex with is positive and play safe. Another writes that “Never believe what the other guy says and always protect urself. In my eyes both parties are guilty.”
I personally think that Reyes-Minana and both the other guys are responsible. As grown ups, everybody has to take responsibility for their actions. It is not fair to blame only Reyes-Minana, I think.
What do Adam4Adam members think? Are Reyes-Minana’s victims as culpable in this situation? Or do you guys think that the fault lies solely at Reyes-Minana’s feet? Share your thoughts with us in the comments section below.
if you know you are HIV positive and have unprotected sex while lying/withholding your status, you are a vile person and in my opinion deserve the death penalty. These days it is incredibly easy to manage HIV and to have a zero viral load, but even then, HONESTY matters.
I could maybe agree for the most part but there are guys that have sex knowingly with almost no regard or care if it’s with an HIV + person and still do so ( THOSE CLAIMING A RELATIONSHIP OR OPEN RELATIONSHIP MARRIAGE OR WHATEVER .. ..
SORRY GUYS IF YOU F**KING SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN YOUR SUPPOSED “HUBBY, BF OR PARTNER”
YOU RUN THE RISK EVERY SINGLE TIME !!!!
and if they become infected they would want to more than likely shift blame rather than be copable and take some responsibility like anyone should for having sex with anyone Esp knowing HIV AND OTHER STDs is always is a risk
There are some gay men who are adamant using condoms and being on Prep and get tested regularly & such but it still is risky with anyone
And I’m sorry but Gay men have maintained an attitude for decades that they can have sex with whoever how ever many and in even they the HIV/AIDS epidemic to present day also with other STDs , but no one ever wants to admit the fact that orgies and groups sex accompanied by sex with multiple men Esp using Meth and other drugs and such risky behavior that they put themselves at risk or just going from one bed to another
People have to assume responsibility that there could be risk anytime esp since HIV was a big game changer and yet all the other STDs that have been around for decades … everyone is copavle and should ALL take responsibility for their actions and esp risky bad behavior
If a person poses no risk they don’t owe you shit…private health matter…u worried about hiv? Get on PrEP. Take responsibility for ur own health.
…and I suppose treatment-resistant gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, HPV, HCV, all of which can be life-threatening, don’t matter a whit to you, do they? Bend over…let me fuck your ass with a loaded 9mm…same logic applies…Mr. Dumass..
I was intentionally infected, but have no feelings of resentment towards the guy who did it. I can understand the twisted pleasure he derived from it. But at the end of the day I choose to bareback with someone I didn’t get tested with, and that’s nobody’s fault but mine. I would perhaps be a little more upset if it wasn’t so treatable nowadays. But now it’s just a pill a day.
Yeah that’s the problem, people say “it’s JUST one pill a day” but it’s more than that though…
“A pill a day” also has an economical cost. Not everyone can afford that.
exactly…
Actually 2 is best…Tivicay and Descovy..
Yeah, the tax payers of NYC end up “affording it”. All people have to do is get an HIV+ result here and they get free housing, free medical insurance and dental (FOR LIFE), and so many other benefits… they don’t even have to work … it’s optional. So, here in NYC, we pay for people who are so stupid and irresponsible. And, on top of that, we the responsible taxpayers also have to fund programs that give out free Prep! I feel like a true republican right now, but people are ridiculous.
They don’t qualify for Social Security Disability until they have full blown AIDS so even with the cheap housing (most housing under these programs has a rent of some amount and is not FREE) and free medicines how can they afford to live? Food stamps only pay for food so unless they have a sugar daddy not working doesn’t really work out as an option. Also many of those programs like housing have long wait lists, at least they do here in Seattle.
In the USA the ADAP program provides needed medication to poz guys and and for the most part covers the cost for the medication.
I’m a taxpayer. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PAYING FOR FREE TRUVADA TO IRRESPONSIBLE QUEENS… $1800/mo. PER DIZZY QUEEN! Enough is enough…time to FINALLY do what Morris Kight (founder of CSW West, for those too clueless to know) implored us to do in 1982…”We shall conquer this disease THROUGH OUR BEHAVIOR.” NO MORE FREE RIDES for idiots.
It’s just a ‘pill’ day, oh my… With your thinking getting infected with HIV will be the new norm if that’s your attitude.
If it became the norm maybe then these health organizations will work faster towards a cure.
“Just a pill a day.” and your liver, kidneys and bladder are SHOT after 18-20 years…and you become yet ANOTHER burden on the public health care system. Only feckless morons take that crap.
Do you realized that he is doing the same thing to others?
He does not care and obviously you don’t care either.
I hope you are telling your partners about your hiv status.
How do U not hate the person? I was purposely infected … and I hate him even k though he’s dead I just can’t forgive him – many years I’ve gone to bathhouses and never caught anything until him
It just happen to be him. You said many times you with to the bath. The truth of the matter it could have been anyone, its in your body a long time before you know. Have have record on all the other guys. You did it own up to it. And forgive yourself that is all that matters. Its already alright OWN IT.
That pill a day also has side effects on your kidneys, bones, sperm count, fat metabolism, etc. I hope you and doctor are vigilant of that pill’s side-effects too.
That’s the problem here, a pill a day, not a death sentence, Seriously! It is a disease and it can kill, also has many side affects. I hear this comment over and over from gay men, positive men who want to screw you without a condom. I will never get that excuse, ridiculous and ignorant. I feel no matter what, if you are positive you should let someone know before sleeping with them, no excuses. If you do not, even with a condom, I think you are the most responsible and intentionally hid it an should be punished. This also happens a lot, the lying and uncaring about someone’s life. It is scary to think that many think this way about the issue and act as if it I no big deal and that they are doing nothing wrong. It is both people/s fault, but the one giving the disease ,basically intentionally, should be punished(even if the sexual partners do not get infected)-it is still attempted…..
i know of a guy in columbus ohio that knowingly lied to, drugged to the point of unconsciousness, topped and infected his victim. the sad part is, CPD is unwilling to pursue any action. there is no excuse for something like that in our community, Penalties need to be swift and severe. what he did is evil as well as a 2nd degree felony in Ohio. maybe barnyard justice applies.
That’s a totally different story since the guy clearly committed rape. But in cases where both parties consent to sex, STD transmission isn’t a blame game.
John yes in this case it does. But the other is both guys should have taken precaution and protected themselves
GUILTY! he knowing withheld this information or out-right LIED, GUILTY, simple as that.
Both sides are to blame Minana for knowinly infecting them and the other two for practing unsafe safe BUT the jail sentence is well deserved for Minana.
Uh, with the availability of home HIV tests that give results in as little as 20 mins, there is no excuse for not knowing the status of your partner, if there is any doubt whatsoever. That being said, Antonio Reyes-Minana is a sociopath, as he knowingly acted without any regard for the safety of his victims. That’s like saying Bernie Madoff’s victims “should have known better than to trust him”, when he conned them out of their fortunes. Shame on the victims for not doing due diligence, but ignorance is not against the law. Fraud, and intentional deception that injures another is. Antonio Reyes-Minana should get the maximum sentence under the law, and be forced to pay for any damages caused by his actions.
Home Hiv test do not catch acute or early infection…which is the stage HIV is most fit for forward transmission.
In a way it can be considered assault, but where do we draw the line? Maybe if there was zero punishment for infecting someone with HIV people would care more about protecting themselves. Believing that these laws are actually protecting you, gives a false security, and that false security should be taken away.
No one is going to look out for you other than yourself. You have to protect yourself, and, as a commenter in the post said, “you should assume everyone you meet is positive and play safe.”
But you should also disclose your status before you engage in sexual activity, especially if you’re positive and you’re the top. Someone else screwed you over, so why would you do that to someone else?
There’s a ton of layers and nuances, but in general, you need to protect yourself because people will lie to you, even though they should be honest. All parties are to blame, but the HIV positive guy shouldn’t get a criminal record because of this.
Out in my little jurisdiction I just happen to know the guy who was the first person to be sentenced under the then new legislation for knowingly transmitting HIV to an innocent individual.
He was a promiscuous bi-sexual and had sex with a woman quite a bit his senior . Without knowing his status she still insisted he wear a condom but when she wasn’t looking he bit the tip off of it and she ended up poz. Even though he was in his 30s the social inquiry report stated that he had the mental development of an 8 year old.
No-one ever tried to put the blame on her . Is this case much different ? It’s all about concealing one’s status or lying about it .
Now on a slightly different note , does anyone remember the case a decade or so ago where a woman took a guy to court for child support a year or so after they had engaged only in oral sex and all that happened was she gave him a BJ ?
When he wasn’t looking she ‘saved’ his ‘gift’ to her and later loaded it into a turkey baster and artificially inseminated herself .
And she won her case as the judge ruled that the ‘gift’ was hers to use as she wished and the guy was still responsible !
yeah in that case, that young man should be sentenced for sure. Because he did it on purpose to infect someone.
And she insisted on protection unlike the men in this story. This is really nothing like the article in question.
The common theme is that he withheld his status and had sex with someone .
And I’m not entirely convinced that he intended to infect her . I believe that with the combination of his sex drive and his diminished mental capacity he was one of those individuals who felt that every ‘load’ he delivered had to have a purpose. As it was , he had children , all neglected , from previous flings .
I agree, we have become a society that blames everybody else for our problems we take no responsibility for what we do when we do it and how we do it because we are never wrong and it’s somebody else’s fault always.
This is an unfortunate situation for all, but I do think that a little more responsibility goes to the person who is in fact infected. Despite the advances in science this can still be a deadly disease and at minimum, compromise ones physical and psychological well being. Not everyone can afford access to resources for treatment. We don’t live in an idea situation where someone is going to tell you if he can cause harm to us, so we should take precautions. But when someone purposely/knowingly puts us in danger he should be held accountable. I liken this to a pilot flying a passenger plan. When you board, you assume your pilot is sober and in control of the machine. We don’t go and ask for his or her last substance test prove that he is worthy to fly the plane safely. We assume the pilot knows that it is their responsibility not to purposely do something that might cause harm to others. If he is found to have cause harm because of his negligence, there would be consequences. There is always responsibility and blame to can go around for anything. But I think in this situation, this guy owns a little bit more responsibility.
The guy should be in jail for a long, long time. He knew his status and continued to have unprotected sex, going so far as to misrepresent his status. The best way to say it, imho, is he had turned himself into a weapon, the safety was off and he played russian roulette. The end results were not an accident and were predictable. I might feel differently if he legitimately did not know his status or had tested negative not long before they began relationships.
Do u understand the risk an undetectable person presents? Pull ur head out of the 90s and Google it…jesus u folks are so out of date in ur knowledge!
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve opted not to have sex with a younger person who hasn’t a clue what he’s doing. Hah! Only to learn that many are have unprotected sex with no regard to safety. They all list Neg in their profiles. They can’t possibly be. However, having spent maybe six years of little sex in my attempt to protect others (I’m HIV +), I decided it was time to sex myself. I’m open and hobest with everyone about my status. I’ll answer questions and always happy to share what I know. Make no mistake. There are no children here. And every single one of us is responsible for their own sexual health. I’ve a friend who comes to play and absolutely everything is covered. And his application of the condom to which ever body part or you is a joy to watch. It’s beautiful even to be with a guy who has as much passion for safety, for me and himself, for his other sexual partners and on down the line. Less sex, with safety always and of the highest quality. Guess that book I was gonna read will have to wait to wait….Jg
Your responsible for your own actions stop point finger an blaming others for your mistakes in life.How stupid can kweens be pretending they didnt know an had unsafe sex..who the fuck are they kidding?btw i work with hiv/aids ppl. an they do lie a lot.
I hope Reye rots. It’s always important to practice safe sex; however, if you leave your car unlocked late at night and it gets stolen, does that mean that the robber shouldn’t be punished? Of course not. Laws have never really been about protecting people. They are about holding citizens accountable to an idealistic society.
Knowingly infecting other people with HIV, a life sentence, is not an ideal any society has or wants. That’s why it is illegal.
It’s 2017. With all the medical advancements for men with HIV, lying and exposing people to it should not even be a discussion. The gay community needs to start calling it for what it is… But that will never happen. Too many snowflakes at play.
As a HIV positive undetectable person myself, it’s a lot better in the long run to be upfront and honest about your HIV status, than to have someone later come back at you and accuse you of infecting them. I know some guys on A4A are HIV positive but have their profiles labeled as HIV negative, and that is mostly because of their professional jobs. And, there are the liars as well.
The key thing is once you contact someone for sex, you both are responsible adults to inform each other about your HIV status. I wished the guy whom I was in contact with 4 ys ago, told me he had HIV, but maybe he didn’t know he was positive at the time we met…who knows. I can’t blame him for infecting me with HIV, but only myself because I was a slut one night and barebacked and trusted him. What is really sad, is more married men understand what HIV Undetectable w/meds means, and the do’s and don’ts, than most gay men on A4A…unbelievable.
He is a criminal. His victims are stupid.
Put his ass in jail for life. His victims will pay for their stupidity for life.
The infected are to blame, sadly. It was up to them to protect themselves. Gay men lie about everything. They tell people what they want to hear and whatever makes them seem most appealing. Furthermore, if you are barebacking with a partner. Chances are they are barebacking with everyone else as well. You aren’t “special. ” They enjoy bareback with everyone. While I do think what he did was wrong. Ultimately, the other 2 men should of protected themselves. That’s why I’m on PreP. I take responsibility and manage my own health. It’s my responsibility. I don’t put my health in the hands of others or their word. You wouldn’t engage in a business dealing without something in writing. So why would these men be barebacked without confirmation that he was negative? STUPID STUPID STUPID!! They should of been on PreP, used condoms, or been tested together. Sadly, we live in a society where everyone is a victim and no one is ever responsible for their own negligence or actions!!
Amen. Exactly what I wanted to say. Lot of people on here are calling for the death sentence. I think if you are in a new relationship and before you have unprotected sex with that person and you ask him and he say no, knowing that he is, then that dog deserves a death sentence. A lot of people really don’t know because of the circumstances.
Eating raw oysters always comes with risks. It’s on every menu where they are listed. However, is someone were to intentionally feed someone contaminated oysters no one would try to blame the victim! That person would go to jail, no questions asked.
The fact that hiv carries such a negative stigma does not excuse an infected person from their actions. And does not give them license to be a horrible prick.
My rule is if they are not gonna wrap it they can go home and whack it. My ass. My health. My rule. And I an delighted to hear when someone is on Prep. The rule stands. It has cost me some hot sex, I know, but those few minutes/hours and a lifetime are not the same thing.
Ok. Putting myself out here at the risk of a lot of flaming!
I was unknowingly infected with HIV some 22+ years ago . I didn’t get mad about it because I really wasn’t certain who infected me, although the guy that I was a fairly regular sex partner with was POZ and didn’t tell me. He died a year or so later.
I was more hurt and felt betrayed than angry because I realized that it was ultimately my responsibility to protect myself and I didn’t. Hurt because I thought that we were true friends and I just couldn’t understand how he could do something like that.
So, what does one do when they are tested positive? What can you do? You just have to do the best you can on all levels. Face the fact and move on.
For me, as well as many others, becoming infected with HIV was a real wake up call. Prior to that, I had been living fairly recklessly, drinking too much, smoking too much, having sex with multiple partners. Once diagnosed, life became so precious each day and I was determined
to live it to the fullest, take care of myself and heal myself on all levels. Not just physically.
Seems to be working because I am now 66 years old and undetectable and really healthy. More so than a great many men 10-20 years younger than myself.
I am frequently hit on by guys half my age, even though they usually decline, or block my profile once they read it thoroughly. I disclose my status on A4A. I believe it’s the best option for me. Would rather weed out the guys not interested up front than have to disclose at a later date. I am not ashamed of my status. I am still the awesome man that I always have been. One thing that becoming positive did for me was to teach me how to love myself and realize my worth.
I agree with others that Minana should pay for his wrongdoing. He knew that he was POZ and didn’t disclose. THAT is a crime in most states, if not all. The death penalty? No! That’s absurd! He didn’t kill anyone and even murderer’s very rarely get that sentence now days!
It’s beyond comprehension that someone who has been infected could do that to another human being. Only out of hatred and most likely anger. If he isn’t held accountable, he will most likely do it again and again.
It is true that HIV is manageable now with proper medication and care. However, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, ever! The stigma alone can ruin a person’s life, leaving them without love and sexual relationships. To me, that is the hardest part. POZ people are human and need love and affection just like everyone else! Not shaming, isolation and rejection!
People need to educate themselves about HIV and the many studies that have been done with thousands of couples over the last several years. Where one partner was POZ and undetectable and the other negative, out of all of the cases, not one person was ever infected, even without protection. The National Institute of Health has now come out in support of the study results that an Undetectable POZ person can NOT infect their sexual partner.
I”m not sure why Adam4Adam doesn’t post these findings here, or at least the links to the studies and other information. It’s all over the Internet. In my opinion, refusal to do so only fuels the ignorance and stigma surrounding the HIV issue.
Check it out guys! HIV Stigma is just as bad or worse then the disease itself!
Thank you.
Great post, Terry!
As an HIV Social Worker/Counselor, thank you Terry for raising the outcome of the most important research study this past January.
The study involved 1,700 couples where one partner is HIV+, and the other is HIV-. To participate in the study, the HIV+ partner was at least 5 years undetectable. 10 years later, all HIV+ partners remained undetectable, and no HIV- partners became infected.
Currently, in the US of all HIV+/AIDS patients, only 15 to 25% are long time undetectable. It varies by state…
Great post Terry! You covered many aspects of this issue intelligently.
YOU are responsible for your OWN health and your own BAD decisions! I am in full support of giving anyone who knowingly lies/hides/conceals or tries to infect someone the max sentence or penalties, although that won’t help those they have infected. YOU cannot believe what someone else tells you regarding their hiv status..have talked with many on this site and others who have NEG on one profile and their other one showing POZ. Many people on these sites flat out lie about being POZ…it’s always the “i don’t wanna be alone” bit or the “i deserve to be happy too” bit or something else…they always have an excuse for lying or not telling someone.
The guy had a moral obligation to tell those men what his status is. They also had a personal responsibility to ask. If they asked, and he lied to them he deserves what he gets.
Speaking as an HIV+ male, I can not and will not sleep with someone without disclosing my status. That is my responsibility and in morally good conscious could not sleep with someone not knowing. Sadly there are many who are scared in fear of rejection and others who just don’t give a damn. Once your partner knows the truth and makes the choice you bareback they accept the risks. It is never okay not disclose, but everyone always needs to protect themselves accordingly.
Hmm, what a vicious circle… A trend that doesn’t just happen in the gay community… However… In all fairness the blame is evenly distributed to everyone! Just because in the heat of the moment you didn’t want to put on a condom not question STD history? I get some maybe reluctant to disclose such stats, but if they don’t disclose… Go with instinct, request a condom or leave the room…. Rather that or have a death sentence hanging around all your life…
Was any testing done to show that it was the exact same strain that they all had? There are different strains out there. Was the accused undetectable?
I’d get a genotype if I were in that situation.
Genotype, matters not! Prior court actions will prove the accused was found guilty before ever setting foot in that Court House without regard to Genotype.
My thoughts as well.
exactly..gay men are such liars,,trust no one..a victum..no one is a vicdumb taking bare cock, when i got pozed up i infected 13 people..alot did not get it..sooo i say ur barebacking its the recievers option..he coulda use a dildoe.
Do you really think YOU are the ONLY ONE to think that ? Attornies, courts etc all use modern medicine forensics….
It is your responsibility to discuss your status with your partners. It is also your sex partners responsibility to protect themselves. Self preservation is rule number one. All we can do is thank our supreme being for making this disease manageable.
When it come down to our personal health I don’t trust anyone. I know too many people who have the various and they got it from someone they trusted. The person looking good and it was on. That is always the way it happen. We got to take the responsibility for our own personal health.
JAIL HIM…that’s why 2 women are now suing Usher for contracting herpes..yes we all have to be responsible and protect ourselves but nowadays even when you have taken precautions you get guys who do devious things like putting holes or even removing condoms during sex..yes these guys were having unprotected sex probably just like the women who got herpes..but did they ask for it ? as people we still believe, no matter the situation, that there is SOME level of trust and decency in each other.
Michael what role do this woman play in getting the various. She had a job to do and that was to protect her self from all STDs. That is here job. She gave the pussy up to a star and now she got something that she can’t get rid of. She took the chance and now she’s burnt.
Antonio should be physically castrated and forced to live the rest of his life in prison. You don’t ever in endanger someone’s health or life knowingly unless it is for self preservation. Foolish people would say the victims had some blame. No they a don’t. Trusting someone one loving someone is never reason to be hurt. Men like Antonio get as much remorse and love as he gave. Strip away his freedom family no letters no phone calls no true communication. Let him find God and find death
I feel that it is the person fault that do not protect himself. You can never make a person be upfront about his ststus but you as an adult knows better in this day in society. Therefore you should never be having unprotected sex. I have had a good number of men in my life and never, never ever have I allowed myself to lose myself in the moment and not protect myself; that is just irresponsible and out right stupid. I am negative and take a test every six months and plan on staying that way, no condom, no sex, point blank.
its very sad that many guys lied about their hiv status, I have seen some guys that have profiles in differents sites , and the hiv status is different in some of them, and guys that some how I know their status, I have seen that they lied , VERY SAD, LETS TAKE CARE OUR SELVES GUYS, NO ONE WILL DO IT FOR US, HUGS FOR EVERYONE.
Terry
Well it is both individuals fault so quit trying to put the blame on one person because of one simple factor neither one of them ask the one important question,the individual that was recieving cock should asked him his hiv status before having sex and the one wanting to fuck should have been upfront in the beginning.
Well then you might as well shut down Adam4Adam because everyone on here lies about something including there status and as we know people on here don’t take any responsibility for there action either
The sad thing is that all parties involved are to blame. Minana is guilty of intentionally infecting the men in question even though there is contributary negligence on their part. The ABC’s of sexual health still apply, ie Abstinence, Be faithful to one partner and Condomise. The only way to be safe is through abstinence, which is almost impossible to achieve and CONDOMISING if you choose to be sexually active.
Who is to say that when the defendants met with the accused, they were not on the window period or infected already? Sadly HIV does not reveal the DNA of the partner infecting the other. In some cases we learn of partners that have unprotected sex, one partner being infected and the other not being infected at all. The only way to be safe is not to trust words but let the blood tests speak for your partner.
When it comes to HIV and STI’s everyone is positive until proven negative. HIV does not kill anymore but there are other STI’s that are becoming deadly. Having someone to blame does not relieve you of the burden of living the consequences of your actions.
Stay safe and play safe always! Any Guy who knows what he is doing doesn’t think of a condom as something that interferes with pleasure. Condoms can give a good sensation too! It’s all in the mind.
absolutly if it was intentional, because there are a lot of fuked up people out there that thier sole intention is to give HIV whoever they can.
Blaming both sides is as bad as Trump!!
Do you guys think that people who lie about their HIV+ Status should be included in the “sex offender” system?
Where will those who are infected be when Medicaid is cut? Where will you be when health insurance stops covering the meds you need?
I don’t understand the cavalier attitude towards AIDS these days. Always protect yourself.
If one is HIV positive and undetectable then they are not going to transmit the virus. If a guy is on PrEP, then they are not going to get infected. HIV is no longer a death sentence. So, the laws need to catch up. If one is going to get jailed for spreading HIV, then, why not other STDs? If other STDs are becoming resistant to antibiotics, then should we jail those who transmit other STDs?
I have lived with HIV Since the early 80s… It takes two… Sometimes dating around and the moment pops up and you haven’t shared your status and it goes way further then expected. I can also say I have not fucked anyone bareback since diagnosis, I can also say I have been undetectable for nearing 20 years, I can also say I had planned a hookup with a guy once, I shared online I was poz with him, picked a place and time for me to fuck his face, I get there and fuck his throat good and blast my wad, leave and go home, a few weeks later I encounter the guy and he is accusing me of spreading HIV, I was stunned, he claimed I had not told him anything, we met and just did it, the very weird thing, he was not the guy I had agreed to meet:-( he just happened to be there and happened to want to suck my cock, I had one picture to go on,he started to become angry and aggressive and I warned him I was more then capable of defending myself, he backed down, he is still neg, but I firmly informed him it was his duty to protect himself, and thanked him for the incredible head and asked him if he wanted more in which he declined and has never spoken to me again even though I see him hanging out there from time to time. If you are dropping to your knees in flash and sucking cock without asking you’re taking a little risk, if you are hiking that ass up in the air and taking loads you’re taking alot of risk … All that said no one should lie about their status to someone who has asked.
Yeah, this guy needs to go to jail …
I understand that people should be responsible for their own sexual health but (1) this guy knew he had HIV and purposely did it and (2) his targets were ex-boyfriends (“… knowingly infecting two former boyfriends with HIV.”) … which means that, depending on the situation in which they broke up and the time since the break-up, it’s a little bit more understandable that they had unprotected sex.
If he was a random guy targeting random men who you don’t know anything about, I’d hold the “victims” more responsible.
Having been a bb bottom at the baths and backrooms I’ve been Lucky. Still neg to this day. In controlled situations, an apartment, top and bottom should know what’s cumming. I a poz top deliberately seeds a dude without the bottom knowing, that’s criminal but not the death sentence it used to be. If the bottoms want it bare…
As a top I’ve broken a few rubbers inside a dude, felt bad about it (yeah right, we all love a good hard fuck) but knowing that I’m neg and clean i stood more a chance to get something from my trick
The same happened to me my boyfriend didn’t bother to tell me he was positive until we broke up and he only done so so it would hurt me with that being said I don’t blame just him because I am an adult and I should have taken the steps to protect myself but instead I took chance so it’s as much as my fault as it is his
First of all, all people should be treated as being infected with HIV no excuse for it. Second, in every sexual encounter there are at least two involved, therefore, if the Top or Bottom are not disclosing their HIV status, it is up to the other person to engage in any sexual encounter “responsibly” as the what might be the cobsequences, otherwise. No one is force to have sex unless one person, the bottom, usually gets rape, which in this world is very unlikely. Therefore, Reyes-Minana is NOT fully responsible for not disclosing his HIV status. Promiscuity affects homosexuals & heterosexuals alike. No one is a victim in this liberal world.
I work in a HIV testing clinic and this is something I stress to every person that tests negative but confesses to having bareback sex with strangers: 1) always assume that your sexual partners are positive, even when tested. 2) get on PrEP if you want to continue taking bare dick from strangers 3) f***** stay on PrEP!
I personally advocate using both because condoms break and PEP is tough.
I personally feel he is to blame he knowingly and intentionally infected his ex-partners that is intent to commit murder because there is no cure and the world knows that the reason I feel this way.
I was homeless for the past 41/2 years and I was raped twice by two different groups of guys who each time told me they were AIDS positive the active virus with high viral loads and the reason they did this was because they said they wanted me dead just because and I don’t know any of them I went to the police they didn’t care but because I have faith in My Heavenly Father I am negative I get tested every 3 months regardless if I have sex or not and as of July 18 2017 I am still negative my body created antibodies against HIV and AIDS so if someone withholds there status then they are the only one to blame not the person you knowingly infect by withholding your status it is intent to commit murder if you lie to someone and they end up positive after having unprotected sex with you.
Ok, I thought homosexuality was a sin, and I thought it was illegal for the most part, and I thought it only mattered if you gave Hiv to other women and not male’s, see this is new to me, so guys can lock up other guys for Hiv, that’s new to me wow
although he lied, which I do not support in any way, he should not be jailed!! The other two should have taken their health and safety into their hands and protected themselves!! Since my diagnoses 8 yrs ago I look back and I am to blame, if only I had loved myself enough to protect myself I would not be poz…we must take account for our own actions, we are the only ones to blame…period!!!
another point…when I tell guys I am undetectable, it is like saying I have a 10 in dick!! They think “well, he see’s a dr regularly so he must be free of other sexually transmitted diseases, he takes care of himself!” Undetectable has become the new 10 inch dick, even if it is only 6 and a half inches!! People need to take responsibility…I do not agree with the hiv laws at all!!
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Um….. Its 2017. If you’re a grown man having unprotected sex I’m actually going to assume you know what’s up. As far as him lying, you have to be insensitive af if you think the stigma, hatred, fear, disgust and ostracism that comes with being positive doesn’t cause psycological trauma. Some people live in shame and depression. Some people are comfortable disclosing every time they engage. Some people are actually turned on by breeding and chasing. Everyone reacts differently when faced with the evil glare of negative society when diagnosed as positive. If someone with a mental disorder commited a murder, are they a bad person or do they have a mental disorder? Before you answer, remember, there was a time when being homosexual was considered a mental disorder. If that’s too far away from you remeber that even today, transgender people are clinically said to have a mental disorder. My point is, people who don’t feel accepted can sometimes feel out of touch with reality (which is a mental sickness) and liable to do anything. The people who disclose everytime, usually feel accepted. End the cycle assholes. End the stigma.
I am shocked anyone would blame the victim. If I am in a relationship and my partner told me they were neg I would believe them if they said they went to get tested. It makes me sad to think that someone would lie about their status.
It’s not like these guys were in a hook-up situation. In that case always cover.
….Why, is this even a question? Of course, both are guilty, however, Antonio should get something like ‘life’ in prison charged with: “attempted, premeditated-man-slaughter” or something. Way back in the early 90’s, I can clearly recall watching a documentary about HIV/AIDS; it had been said that, “if one is going to be sexually active, one must assume everyone is hiv+.” Put this another way, “no glove, no love.” = never, never, let your guard down!
So a guy ops into risky sex with someone who’s status he has no proof of and the guy he gets HIV from gets jail time? I can’t wait until the cure is just as available as cough syrup. This is madness.
Be a whore and suffer the consequences. I’ve had sex 4 times in my 32 years of life and always make my partner use a condom. No glove no love simple as that. Gay guys tend to be the biggest whores I have ever seen and this is why my track record remains at 4. I can’t believe any of them because men lie. It’s human nature. The two guys got their consequences which is a shorter life and I’m pretty sure they will also be infecting other people. The guy who was the original infector got 7 years. He’ll be out in 3 1/2 no doubt. But, all 3 are whores.
4 times in 32 years. Silly queen. Not only have you not lived a life….you might be dead already. Nun of this and nun of that.
I’ll take being a whore over being a nun any day.
Both parties are responsible period. As someone stated earlier we are all grown adults and clearly know what is going on in society and if you just take someone’s word that they are negative that’s your stupidity. That person could have a number of stds so to just accept it as truth when asking are you clean is your dumbness. You deserve what you get and have to suffer the consequences. I mean come on why do we even have to have this discussion?
In Tennessee, we have criminalized HIV exposure but not other bloodborne pathogens for the general population, despite the fact that HEP C is just as lethal and was only recently treatable. Knowingly exposing police and other emergency workers is the sole standard for anything other than HIV. The government still views HIV as a dirty disease and sees people living with it as deplorable. Both parties are responsible for their health in all situations. There is too much information available about bloodborne pathogens for anyone to take unnecessary risks. Criminalization of one single population has added to that stigma.
This has always been a highly debated argument, but here’s my two cents.
Both people are responsible. I think Antonio’s jail time is deserved. He did what he did knowingly.
But I don’t feel bad for the people who got it either. Your body is your responsibility, not anyone else, especially when it comes to your health. Knowing what we know today with HIV, if a person is going to rely on someone’s word as to rather they are “safe” or not to have unprotected sex with, then that is a choice and chance they accept to take, no matter the outcome. You can’t accept the risk and cry wolf when it doesn’t turn out the way you wanted it to. Unprotected sex is a gamble. If you’re stupid enough to trust someones word when either of you can pick up an HIV test at any local drug store or any free testing clinic, then I don’t have pity on either.
Take responsibility for your own actions. You’re a horrible person for spreading it knowing you have it and you’re a complete idiot for putting your health in jeopardy for a 5 minute fuck.
Where’s the person who infected him?
Stories like these, and the comments that go with it, are just going to make more HIV+ people discreet about their status.
Truthfully, no one who is HIV+ (including decent folk who are confirmed undetectable and stay that way) don’t want to be walking around with a “scarlet letter” at all times.
Should HIV+ undetectable people be allowed to keep it secret? There’s 0% chance of transmission. At least no undetrctable people will be spreading it. (Whereas the guy in this story seems to specifically have been “stealthing” the virus).
Guilty; because he knowingly infected them. If you punch your buddy and he falls down and hits his head, you are still guilty for punching. You can’t blame the other guy for being your buddy and trusting you.
Both are responsible, protect self and other. Always practice safe sex regardless what people say,do,or believed. If you dare to barebacked, blame your self first.
HIV needs to be decriminalized. The stigma is what causes people to not get tested and be upfront about their status. The common cold can cause fatal complications in immunocompromised people, but you don’t see people going to jail for bringing their cold to work
You should never infect someone, you always should be honest. If you give someone HIV then you should go to jail 4 life or the one you infected should be able to kill you. If someone ever gave me hiv, I would totally make sure they were dead.
Well first off we are not living in a society where we practice vigilante justice and eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth. And if someone takes it upon themselves to do that they are opening themselves up to being charged with a crime. The second thing is that HIV is no longer a death sentence with the medications that are available to treat the disease. So speaking in terms that you did is like you’re still stuck in the 80’s or something? I still don’t think HIV no longer being a death sentence gives anyone the right to purposely lie to someone and then infect them. But locking them up for life or resorting to vigilante justice are both not the answer. Life in prison comes with a price tag for tax payers too.
Honestly, I think he is to blame since he didn’t tell the one and lied to the other. But, that being said, you can’t always believe what someone says about their status unless they show a recent test result with date on it, a condom should always be used.
People should have a moral compass if, you know you’re + and it gets to that point protect the other person. Now, on the other side of this just you protection. It covers all bases.
He is guilty because he knew he was infected. Thats a good enough reason for me not to test.
Huh? Why would that cause you to not want to get tested for HIV?
For the guy to be criminally responsible is outrageous. Even if he intentionally lied to his “buddies”. It’s up to the person to wear a condom, if they don’t they took the chance and played Russian roulette. If they cared so much about their well-being, they would trust no one and take precautions to protect themselves. Anyone with a brain cell would wear protection and not take someone’s word for it.
Why should all the responsibility fall on the bottom? Because they are the submissive role? That is not right. He had a choice he could be honest and tell the bottom he is HIV+, but he chose to be deceitful and lie. In a court of law he would be perjuring himself and face legal consequences. So why should he get a pass for lying about his HIV status and then having unprotected sex with that person? I don’t think it should be a felony, but if a person chooses to be dishonest they should face some sort of punishment, otherwise our society would seem to be condoning dishonesty. And putting it all on the bottom seems to be discriminatory.
If your health is important to you, you need to assume that everyone you ” choose” to be intimate with is infected. Protect yourself because there are to many out here that could careless about your well being..
I believe that everyone should use universal protection. Assume that your partner is positive. No he should not have got time. The two guys that got the various do they know for sure that this guy gave them the various. How many sexually partners have they had before they came in contact with Rayes and was all the other sexually partners tested as well?
Yes he should have came clean and told of his status. But the 2 boyfriends should have never given into unprotected sex until they knew this guy way better.. All are to blame in this one.
With everyone being adults and (assumingly) aware of general risk-factors of unprotected sex, each guy is responsible for his infection. If they’re barebacking off of the “trust” they have for some guy who’s just trying to get the max pleasure out of each session…thats what you get.
With that said…if you’re aware that you’re infectious enough to transmit and you don’t disclose ahead of time, that’s a deliberate attack on the other persons health no matter how you look at it. So he deserves the jail time.
Disclosure/Nondisclosure will always be a touchy topic. But, if you’re HIV+/undetectable, you take your meds appropriately, and use protection OR the other person is on PrEP…non-disclosure should not be criminalized.
Additionally, anonymous encounters where you barely exchange names….well, again, thats what you get for raw-dogging with a stranger
All three are too blame….. my reason for saying this is, know one held a gun to their heads…. just like when Antonio tested positive….. what about that person who gave it too him. Lets not start playing the blame game…. if we as people start blaming everyone for something bad that happen too us we all end up behind jail. I not saying what he did was wrong… but come on guys… really. This is nothing new…. we’ve been told since HIV became a big topic around the world to wrap it up and practices safe sex. You should always treat everyone as if they have some kind of STDs. The other two guys did not….. so now they have to live with what they have done two themselves. We all need to start taking responsibility for our own actions and stop blaming other….i’m truly sorry for all three and I wish them all best wishes and that they all learn from this moment in time.
For not telling them about his status he is a vile person, but the other two should have taken precaution as well, you can not be out here all willy nilly having unprotected sex. If you are having unprotected sex, know that there are consequences that may happen with the results of this action
We will ALL die eventually whether or not we “HIV/AIDS”.
After I die, the question for ME will be: Did I choose the wrong planet inhabited by these primitive and narrow-minded beings who have not developed the technology to eradicate diseases?
That is the real question I will be asking myself. I do not know about you people since we are NOT necessarily the same beings despite the apparently similar outer human coverings that we might share.
Errata.
It should be: “…whether or not we HAVE “HIV/AIDS”.
It appears that the evidence points to the fact that he withheld his status to one man and lied to the other man. I do not understand why there would be any sympathetic feelings towards the accused? By sympathy I refer to others who have commented that they are also to bear some of the blame. He knowing infected two men. Those two men very possibly have infected other men, and so forth. Since Reyes-Minana is the “patient zero” in this case and he knowingly did these acts then he is responsible for spreading the disease, thus he is guilty. It may not sit well with one’s moral belief of right and wrong, but the facts remain.
He is the one who gets all the blame for the one where he lied to the partner about his HIV status. When you deliberately mislead someone like that then you are the one who is to blame, and the one who must face the consequences. For the other guy they are both to blame. It sounds like the other guy never asked him about his HIV status so he did the old Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. In this case the bottom should have asked if the top did not volunteer his status information before they started having sex. You can’t just leave it up to the other person and if they don’t bring it up then oh well. Everyone is responsible for their own health and well being.
Yes, he deserves jail. But the victims are not innocent. Choosing to bareback is unacceptable. Young people must re-learn that old lesson somehow. So perhaps they deserve a fine. Perhaps everyone who is positive must wear a scarlet letter.
Actually my job is at a nonprofit organization and they provide housing just for those living w/ HIV. The residents either pay no rent or pay between 30 & 10% of the rent and get utility assistance. More than half get social security or have some other type check coming in. Out of 12 people only 3 work and that’s part time.
the responsibility to know your partner’s status is your own! At the same time, I have the
responsibility to inform my partner that I am positive too!. If not, i should pay the
consequences of my actions! To me that is playing with a person’s life! HIV isn’t a death
sentence but can be very frightening new information to hear!
If the HIV Positive guy is on meds and Undetectable (viral load) he cannot infect his partner
It’s amazing how many people don’t care about themselves, others, or both, and all the ways that commonly manifests. Several diseases could be effectively wiped out in 1-2 generations if people were smart and serious enough to quit the bullshit taboo, vaccinate and PreP.
Im HIV-, recently tested…Im a bottom, a guy who gets off at glory holes, video stores, (craigslist was awesome..) and Grindr. I host in a dark room…and get a surprising amount of people walking in, lube up and fuck me like a prom date…they go balls deep when they cum… I have been having sex with me for 30 years. I have never had a STD, and am HIV-….BUT, I have had sex with guys who were Poz… I picked up 2 guys at a video store in Chicago while on business…they came to my hotel room, and we had a 36 hour cum-fest. As the bigger of the two was pulsing his last load in me…he whispered in my ear…Im Positive, and so is my partner. Got tested every 3 months since…still neg…and I know I’ve taken Poz loads deep. Am I lucky? Do I have a natural antibody that protects me? I will never know…but anonymous loads are very hot, for me…. and I just got another Neg test result.
The dividing line for me is that he lied about his status. While it doesn’t mean anyone should just go bare because someone says they are negative, it isn’t so hard to imagine trusting a guy to that level. In fact I have on numerous occasions. But to intentionally mislead is criminal in my mind.
To those who are angry at taxpayer dollars being used after hiv has been contracted by someone I don’t disagree. But I also think the pharma companies should be held accountable for the insanity of profit over life. $1800 monthly for Truvada is ridiculous when lives are at stake.